Doug PollardSharing a fork can give you AIDS, says Nobel doctor
August 19th 2008 01:05
Let's fork!
Remember all those old wives tales you heard when you were a kid? Like the one about how a girl could get pregnant just by kissing a boy? Silly, wasn’t it?
Well, even if you’re a world expert in blood transfusion, member of the Nobel Prize committee for medicine, adviser to the UN, blah, blah, blah, you can still fall for that kind of stuff.
The expert in question, Dr Paul V Holland of California, was giving evidence in Tasmania as to why gay men should not be allowed to give blood if they’ve had sex with another man in the last 12 months. He said there was no such thing as safe sex between two men “other than abstinence.”
When asked to explain what he understood by two men ‘having sex’, he said ‘having sex’ meant any exchange of bodily secretions, including kissing, and that if a man engages in a same-sex kiss he should, even if he goes no further, be barred from giving blood.
According to this ‘world expert’ if you kiss someone, you’ve ‘had sex’ and are therefore at risk of catching/transmitting HIV – but only if you’re both gay men. He didn’t say, but it would appear that in his view a man can eat a woman’s face off for hours, but they still haven’t ‘had sex’.
In fact, he thinks gay men can have sex with each other without even touching. He said that ‘exchange of bodily fluids’ (his definition of ‘having sex’) included two MSM (men who have sex with other men) sharing their knives and forks!
The chance of transmitting HIV via a kiss has been known for many years, and it’s as close to zero as makes no difference. As far as I’m aware, there is no known case in the world of mouth to mouth transmission of HIV – otherwise paramedics would be barred from giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.
Sharing things you put in your mouth is known to be risky in one instance – sharing toothbrushes - because gums may bleed. But sharing a fork has never even appeared on the radar.
When asked to cite any reputable peer-reviewed research to back up his views, he said he didn’t understand the question.
A senior scientists/doctor with qualifications out the yin-yang, including board membership of a blood service called “ABO to GO”, doesn’t understand what peer-reviewed research is? The Red Cross have been left red-faced by this forking nonsense!
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Comment by Mountain Fog
Infognito
Surely he isn't that stupid?
Anyway, I have to agree, in one sense, kissing could easily cause the virus to transmit, if both people had ulcerated and/or bleeding gums, gingavitus, but, as for on the fork... I know some viruses can survive in the air for some time, not sure about the 'aids' virus, really the syndrome..
Besides, I have kissed a number of men on the lips who not only had AIDs, but were in the process of dying from sarcoma, etc, and I never got the virus, or any other disease. Hell, I've been to bed with three guys that have died of Aids, and was not infected.
It just is not as easy to catch as they make out, and people forget, primarliy it is a blood born disease, not a necessarily sexually transmitted one, albeit anal, particulary rough anal, would put you at the extreme high end in risk of contamination.
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fog
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fog